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The 32 spline main shafts are 3/4" longer than the 27 spline ones. Nothing else was done just a tranny swap. No hassle 12 month warranty on rebuilt units. I'm just here to aggravate, no cars left due to age/back problems IIRC, some of the '68-ish 396 Chevelles came with the Saginaw 4-speeds and I saw a new '68 Buick GS 400 with a 3-speed in it. Saginaw Synchro's; SM465 4 Speed Transmission Parts. While the big-block vs. small-block variable is one that has two groups of passionatefollowers, the other reflects the way in which the driver selects transmission gears. 3 & 4 Speed Saginaw Manual Car Transmission Bearing Retainer, SAGINAW 3 & 4 SPEED TRANSMISSION KEY & SPRING KIT WT301-K, 4 Speed Saginaw Transmission, GM 3925656, SAGINAW 3 & 4 SPEED TRUCK FRONT BEARING RETAINER WITH SEAL AFTER MARKET USED, Vintage Factory ITM 4-Speed Manual Shifter Body Camaro Saginaw Transmission, Clean GM Chevy Saginaw 4 Speed Transmission 3925656 6261886 3878886 Camaro Nova, Saginaw 4 Speed Transmission 3-4 Syncro Assy O.E. Pre '69 Muncie's . The M20 and M21 used a gearset with a more angled tooth design on each gear (left). See all categories. 0000020231 00000 n
'75 Nova 427BB/Manual th400, '94 S-10 Blazer 4.3/4L60E, Dana 30, Ford 8.8, 35" super swampers, 16" total lift, Stock '97 Mustang GT. JavaScript is disabled. $63.99. The maximum horsepower that a saginaw can handle is 250-300 horsepower. 0000034617 00000 n
Its your money . 3.11 sec. In order to correctly identify a Muncie four-speed transmission, several visual clues are needed, and those cues involve the casting numbers on the case, side cover, and tailshaft. We need to make note that the early Muncie transmissions offered between 1963 and 1965 utilized a 7/8-inch countershaft in the cluster gear, and those manufactured between 1966 and 1974 used a 1-inch diameter shaft. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The synchro rings all had so little wear and the dog teeth were great that I put it in. Reconditioned VERY NICE, Saginaw 4 Speed Transmission Mainshaft PERFECT USED CONDITION, 3 & 4 Speed Saginaw Manual Car Transmission Bearing Retainer (AWT301-6). As a rule of thumb, they were not built to handle the kind of power that a Muncie transmission could handle. Cast iron case and extension housing with 4-bolt side cover. It's behind a 350 small block with close to 400hp/tq. 0000038000 00000 n
This video will provide you with all the details for rebuilding the Saginaw 4-speed manual transmission that was used in many GM vehicles of the 60s and 70s, including Chevelles, Camaros, Novas, Firebirds, and more. 97 it's a, I have a 2007 h3 hummer base model. They came in the Z28, Trans am and Corvette's stronger than a Saginaw and quite possibly cheaper than a Muncie. i`ve found sag trans with these numbers 14080874, 1c n149499 can you help and tell me what yr or any thing about this he only wants 200. and 25 for the bell housing i want to put it in 57 belair. The Muncies appearance, design, and operation did not change much during the transmissions use in GM production cars. The Muncie was made out of Aluminum. More to follow, See Also: Transmission Cross Reference Database<br><ins class="adsbygoogle" style="display: block; text-align: center;" data-ad-layout="in-article" data-ad-format="fluid" data-ad-client="ca-pub-4890196604207780" data-ad-slot="3686040326"><br><script>&lt;br /> (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});&lt;br />, An Online Magazine for DIY Hot Rod Builders. In reality you fill up. It is the main shaft that is longer, Mike. Saginaw 4 Speed 1-2 Syncro Assy 2ND Design 67 - 85 No China Junk Genuine O. E. Saginaw 4 Speed Transmission Main Shaft Camaro Chevelle Nova 1967, SAGINAW 3 & 4 SPEED TRUCK FRONT BEARING RETAINER WITH SEAL GM PART REFURBISHED, Professionally Rebuilt GM 3.50 1st Gear Saginaw 4 Speed Manual Transmission, HURST 4 SPEED SHIFT ROD #213-0064 SAGINAW 3rd 4th GEAR WITH LINK KIT 373 8619, Restored GM Saginaw 3 Speed Manual Transmission 10 x 27 Select From 4 Ratios, Vintage GM 4 speed Saginaw Hurst Shifter 5776 5759 Shifter Lever Tabs Arms, (1) Saginaw Muncie 3 and 4 Speed Transmission Universal Steel Shifter Lever Tab, GM Chevy 6261884 Saginaw 4 Speed Transmission Tail Shaft Housing 1966 1972 66 67, Chevy Vega Monza 4 speed Transmission Counter Weight Balance Chevrolet Saginaw, Saginaw 3-4 Speed Small Parts Kit 66-87 Chevy GM Manual Transmission, Saginaw 3-4 Speed Transmission Rebuild Bearing Synchro Kit 66-85 Chevy GMC, Professionally Rebuilt GM 3.11 1st Gear Saginaw 4 Speed Manual Transmission, Saginaw 4 Speed Hurst Shifter Linkage Lever Tab (1) AAC 5776 Out (2) 5759 Out, SAGINAW 4 Speed Transmission 2.54 1st Gear Car 10 x 27 Rebuilt 1 Year Warranty, Chevy Truck 12 Clutch Alum Bell Housing 6263756 GMC 5 Bolt SBC BBC w/Fork, SAGINAW 4 Speed Transmission 3.11 1st Gear Car 10 x 27 Rebuilt 1 Year Warranty, Saginaw 3 - 4 Speed Front Bearing Retainer w/ Seal GM Car Transmission 4 5/8" OD, - Saginaw 3 - 4 Speed Front Bearing Retainer w/ Seal GM Car Transmission 4 5/8" OD, SAGINAW 4 SPEED TRANSMISSION 3-4SHIFT FORK GOOD USED - HARD TO FIND D, SAGINAW 4 SPEED TRANSMISSION SHIFTER ARMS/LEVERS 1975-81 Pontiac 403, SAGINAW 4 Speed Transmission 3.50 1st Gear Car 10 x 27 Rebuilt 1 Year Warranty, Saginaw 4-Speed Hurst Shifter Linkage Lever Arm Tab 1) AAC 5776 Out 2) 5759 OEM, SAGINAW 3 Speed Transmission 2.85 For Trucks 10 x 27 Rebuilt 1 Year Warranty, 1964 1967 CHEVELLE GTO GS MALIBU EL CAMINO TRANSMISSION REVERSE LOCKOUT LINKAGE, SAGINAW 3 Speed Transmission 2.85 Car or Truck 10 x 27 Rebuilt 1 Year Warranty, (4) Saginaw Muncie 4 Speed Transmission Universal Steel Shifter Lever 3 Speed, 1967 Saginaw Wide ratio Transmisson- Rebuilt, Saginaw 4 Speed Transmission LEVERS 1-2 3-4 Reverse O.E RECONDITIONED, Saginaw Muncie 4 Speed Transmission Universal Steel Shifter Lever Pair 3 Speed, 1955 1956 1957 55 56 BEL AIR 150 210 CORVETTE Manual Transmission Bell Housing, Pair Saginaw Muncie 3 and 4 Speed Transmission Universal Steel Shifter Lever Tab, 1967-1981 Camaro 4 Speed Saginaw Manual Transmission Output Shaft, old-dominion-mustang-camaro (11,408) 99.1%, SAGINAW TRANSMISSION SHIFT FORK USED FITS 2-3 1/R IN 3 SPEEDS & 3-4 IN 4 SPEED, SAGINAW TRANSMISSION 3 OR 4 SPEED TRANSMISSION REBUILD KIT, Saginaw 3 & 4 Speed Transmission Gasket & Seal Kit - All GM Products. 0000001576 00000 n
They were popular in the Muscle Car era. Have a look: A lot of people just need to know which one is which, and the case material will provide you with fine answer to that question. Having issues diagnosing problems with your Saginaw manual transmission we can help. January 2022 Jason, MAZDA6 shuts down while driving fuel pump not monitored, may be no engine light etc. They appeared in a wide variety of General. Hopefully, this guide can help you decipher what gearbox you have located if youre in need of a Chevy four speed, or if you are fortunate enough to happen across one stashed away in a barn somewhere. Brand New. The 1969 and later models use a bolt to secure the linkage to the transmission. While the Chevy four-speed manual transmission was a staple in many muscle cars, even many of the Generals other car models were equipped with a manually operated gear selecting device. The Muncie four-speed transmission was heralded by many as anindestructible four speed used by General Motors, and found its way into many different car models, behind various engine combinations between 1963 and 1974. street use. This video takes you step-by-step through the entire rebuilding process, showing you what special tools you'll need, as well as the parts that are typically included in a rebuilding kit. 40Standard What's New; Forum Listing; Products; . One brand new with warranty will set you back just under 2G's, but a good friend of mine is running one behind a 511 BBC on spray, has made over 850 HP on a chassis dyno, so over 1K horsepower at the flywheel and he had no problems, even launching it at the dragstrip!! xb``c``pd?X80L0`aQOek_Ze It may not display this or other websites correctly. - and traction is enhanced, you can figure on eventually breaking the transmission. You bring the gumption. 0000029702 00000 n
and traction is enhanced, you can figure on eventually breaking the transmission. ). JavaScript is disabled. The numbers 3831707 and the shifter linkage being attached with studs and nuts make this a side cover for an early Muncie. All rights reserved. Our warehouses arent stocked with junk - instead of cheap Saginaw 4-Speed parts, we carry Saginaw 4-Speed aftermarket parts that meet our standards of quality and affordability. 0000012987 00000 n
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My .02 if my opinion is worth that today, for a good all around street car, i'll take an M20 any day of the week. If the tranny came from a 6 cylinder car, it was not a Z28. Free Shipping; Motive Gear Transmission Small Parts Kits SP301-50. 0000051764 00000 n
Since 1952 our family-owned company has forged a legacy built on hassle free ordering & delivery, affordability, quality parts, and the best Saginaw 4-Speed parts catalog around. Other Manual Transmission Links. Maybe even up to 450, but remember it depends on how you treat it. The side cover is 6261886, no "performance" Camaro ever used a Saginaw trans. Shift into high gear with Speedway Motors, your one-stop shop for all of your Saginaw performance needs! See each listing for international shipping options and costs. $539.10. So and old Muncie will usually be smooth and a little greasy. 0000002905 00000 n
5.0. That's why we call teachmecars.com your automotive service GPS. In general ,when dealing with OEM stuff, no grooves on an input gear means it's an M22. Did you know that there are various models that were used in various cars? Saginaw 4-Speed Rebuild - by teachmecars.com Teach Me.com 153 subscribers Subscribe 48K views 8 years ago This video will provide you with all the details for rebuilding the Saginaw 4-speed. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. 0000002663 00000 n
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4.0 out of 5 stars. Alcohol Beer & Tobacco Covers; Animal & Bird Covers; Blow Out Lot of Matchcovers; Most rebuilders in the day had big buckets of parts and if they needed a main housing they grabbed one regardless of the part number because they all interchange. As for how much power they'll take I've been using a 2 ring input tranny in my 71 GTO with great sucess and has held up to drag strip abuse very well. {bTs, T$_@) Many enthusiasts feel that for a car to be a true muscle car it must have a four-speed transmission. Those old Saginaw 4 speeds are not a high performance trans, so don't put one behind a screaming 800 HP engine. Basically, if you are installing one or the other in a car that will be a nice driver and see only minimal, spirited gear grabbing, both the Saginaw and the Borg-Warner can be a good and less expensive alternative to the more robust Muncie. Bearings Individual. So this way is going to help you narrow down exactly what kind of saginaw that you may have. BOWLING - SPORTS: ARK LANES (DETROIT, MICHIGAN) -K2. %PDF-1.4
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5.0. Keep in mind, if you plan to drop one in a vehicle that makes more power than it did when it was stock, you might want to consider going with the Muncie if you plan to beat on it. Saginaw 4 speed 3.50 first gear - $350 (Newington) Used Saginaw4 speed transmission in good working condition. While its obvious that the four speed will use three shift-linkage arms and the three speed will have two, if the first letter is R, then you have found a four speed. saginaw 3 & 4-speed manual transmission parts & rebuild kits. $500.00 + $156.04 shipping. (452) 7 bolt . The experts at Speedway Motors have carefully curated a selection of the best parts for Saginaw 4-Speed - delivered quickly, efficiently and without any hassles. 0000016444 00000 n
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If a car came with an axle ratio of 3.73 (or numerically higher), it usually came with a close-ratio transmission. Count the rings: There are rings around the input shaft that will help you determine the gearing in the transmission itself. Saginaw 4 Speed Transmission Bearing Kit with Synchro Rings, BK115WS Our Price: $73.12 (6) Saginaw Gear Kit 4 Speed Input, Cluster, 2nd, 3rd Gear, GK-SAG Saginaw Gear Kit 4 Speed, GK-SAG (3) Saginaw Small Parts Kit, SP301-50 Saginaw Small Parts Kit, SP301-50 Our Price: $23.98 (6) The M22 was designed as a road race transmission, and the straighter angle of the gear teeth produced less heat and less end-loading of the gears. Borg Warner once again started supplying four speeds to GM in the early 70s with the release of the Super T10. The new "super" m-22 supposedly will handle up to about 650 ft lbs of torque, but even then, depending on how you treat it. Factory camaros that came with saginaws never had 300 hp. Last edited: Dec 16, 2012. These numbers can be found on the transmission case, and the first letter in this series of numbers is going to tell you exactly which Saginaw transmission you are looking at. We provide how-to and technical articles, vehicle and build features and examples, plus calculators and lookups that will help you get your ride from dream to driver. A forum community dedicated to hot rod owners and enthusiasts. 28 0 obj
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$599.00 + $189.00 shipping. Randy Bolig has been working on cars and has been involved in the hobby ever since he bought his first car when he was only 14 years old. An older Saginaw will usually be coated in rust unless it was cared for extra ordinarily well. It usually found its way into trucks and other heavy vehicles where weight was not at a premium. Number of bids and bid amounts may be slightly out of date. Saginaw four-speeds were manufactured from 1966-'86, and you can still find them in abundance at your local salvage yard or in many '60s, '70s and '80s donor cars. With 116 Saginaw 4-Speed Parts for sale, we guarantee your satisfaction with these parts from our online store. How strong are these saginaws? If you decode the average muncie today you may find a pontiac main case, an oldsmobile tailshaft housing and a chevy mid plate all through the numbers. Free Shipping; $255.99. New Guy. If you would like to read more about decoding a 1960s transmission, this page is pretty good. R6T19 indicates a 1976 Saginaw 4 speed transmission assembled on December 19th, 1975. The gear ratio of the Chevy four-speed transmission placed in any car was usually determined by the engine size and rearend axle ratio. Talk to the experts. You are looking of the letter R. If the first letter of the code starts with an R than you can be confident that you have found what you can be confident that it is a four speed version. Another way to tell the identify a Saginaw transmission is to look at the shift arms. Our factory rebuilt re-manufactured transmissions are dyno tested before leaving the factory ensuring the highest quality. in this thread in this sub-forum in the entire site. Is the trans yoke for a Saginaw 4-speed the same 26 spline as the Muncie? 0000004912 00000 n
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With such high usage of this transmission, the replacement and aftermarket parts for them can easily be found. Snap On vs Daytona, Pittsburgh, ESCO, Husky, More. Are the front seals available? Don't rule out the late 70's Borg Warner Super T10 transmission too. Muncies M-20's or M-21's and Borg Warners T-10's are a bit heartier and can handle maybe up to 350-400 hp. I used to use heavy weight racing oil but found that in cold weather it affected "spin down" time and the gears clashed if I shifted too fast . G.M. Saginaws are classified in 3 different catagories, you cna check to see what you have by looking at the input shaft. Martinius, 0000026045 00000 n
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SS is right, but a muncie won't do you much good with a true 500 horsepower motor, you'll have to go with a Super T-10, T-5 or a T-56, consider me the razor blade in your candy apple, The saginaw was designed for non-performance cars. Buy It Now. . Copyright 1995-2021 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. We have salvaged more than one Saginaw from cars like the Vega and Monza. Build your own custom newsletter with the content you love from Chevy Hardcore, directly to your inbox, absolutely FREE! This of course assumes you have a 1970+ camaro extention on the main case. 0000013910 00000 n
Saginaw 3 and 4 Speed Synchro Ring 66-85 Chevy GM Manual Transmission, SAGINAW 3 & 4 Speed Manual Transmission Bearing Retainer with Seal, - SAGINAW 3 & 4 Speed Manual Transmission Bearing Retainer with Seal, Leave feedback about your eBay search experience - opens in new window or tab. The main case number is 338935. Every original 1980 Z-28 that I have seen (about four) had a borg warner t-10 with an aluminum case and iron side cover. Posts: 5. washington court house ohio. All transmissions with a 26-spline input shaft used a 32-spline output shaft, and all those with a 10-spline input shaft were paired with a 27-spline output shaft. I would love to know why people here speak in HP capacity for a transmission. Bonnewagon. Whats The Reason Enthusiasts Cant Get, Yes I Am A Dinosaur, And Why I Feel Electric Cars, OE Spotlight: Silverado HD Gets ZR2 Package And Updated Duramax, CP4 Fuel Pump Lawsuit Moves Forward For GM Truck Owners, Hawkeye Community College Adds QA1 Suspension To The C10 Chevy Truck, Light Up Your Sniper EFI System With A HyperSpark Master Kit, Fenix Is A Next-Gen 69 Camaro With 1,180 Horsepower, Shop Tour: Brian Tooley Racing Expands To Be A One-Stop Shop, Moroso Anti-Roll Kit Is The Right Tool For The Dragstrip. Has non-synchro 1st and a "barrel" type 2/3 assembly. If that's the case, then the Saginaw-with just three forward gears-already has a lighter rotating mass than just about any other trans you'll find. Identifing a 4- speed saginaw. These grooves are there to indicate the ratios of the gears inside the transmission. HURST 4 SPEED SHIFT ROD #213-5298 FITS 1973-77 CHEVY/CAMERO WITH SAGINAW TRANS. The first and most obvious has to do with the size of a cars engine. RECALLS! RPO code M20 significances the 4 Speed version, this overdrive will have a code of O. Muncies are a really unique tranny because of parts interchangability. That being said, there was a second, close-ratio version (M22) that was developed to survive duty behind engines with a higher torque output, and was known as the Rock Crusher. This version was offered in high-performance big-block cars starting with the 1965 Corvette. The SS and Z28 used the Muncie, then later the Borg Warner, never a Saginaw trans. I have a saginaw 4 speed, freshly rebuilt. the Saginaw has excellent gearing also 2.89:1 1st gear and 2.53:1 second compared to an M-20 or M-21 Muncies which has a 2.54:1 1st gear or an M-22 (and some M-21's) have a 2.20:1 1st gear which really kills the bottom end. We will safeguard your e-mail and only send content you request. Does anyone know for sure what kind of trany is in my car. The tail shaft housing number is 352254. Observe the picture above. Saginaw 4-speed: material: cast iron 7-bolt side cover: 3915032: 3925656: Muncie 4-speed: material: aluminum 7-bolt side cover: 3885010: 3925660 * # MC1 transmissions used either maincase - castings are listed in order of use. * Some late-production 69 Camaros came with Muncie 3925661 maincases. If the car has high-performance upgrades that substantially raise the engine's torque output above 300 to 350 lb./ft. Joined: Oct 2007. The Saginaw 4-speed transmission from General Motors is one of the most popular and widely used transmissions in the racing and rodding industry. Shipping speed. 0000011756 00000 n
I want trying to say that you guys were wrong. I dont look for numbers matching pieces for my vehicles. No Z28 ever had a 6 cylinder engine. Advertising - Vintage Print Ad; Automotive . The Saginaw would never hold up under 500 horsepower. Saginaw 4 Speed Gaslets, Seals, Bushing and Small Parts, Saginaw 4 Speed Syncro Assemblies, Sliders and Rings, 40312 County 8 Blvd, Zumbrota, MN 559928 am - 5 pm CST507-824-2012, Toll Free Phone: 1-888-824-2012info@midwesttrans.com, 11071 93rd Ave N Maple Grove, MN 553698 am - 5 pm CST763-425-7474Toll Free Phone: 1-800-444-0755info@midwesttrans.com, Contact Us | FAQ | Warranty | Privacy Policy | Terms & Conditions, Automotive Repair Shop Website Design by One Wheel Marketing, models that used this 4 Speed transmission. Rare Vintage Ramada Inn Hotel - Matchbook & Matches K2 Holland Saginaw, Michigan. OE Spotlight: Silverado HD Gets ZR2 Package And Updated, CP4 Fuel Pump Lawsuit Moves Forward For GM Truck, Hawkeye Community College Adds QA1 Suspension To The C10 Chevy, Whipple Is Bringing Gen 5s Together With 3.0L Blower And, Boost Life Made Easy With The Summit Racing Pro LS Turbo, Steer Your Classic Ride Straight With A New CPP Steering, A ZL1 On The Hunt To Reclaim Its Crown As Quickest, Killer Corvette: Paul Graggs Supercharged 1964 Pro Street, SEMA 2022: GEARWRENCH Leveled Up With Distinct Quality Hand, Reignite Your Cat Eye Silverado Headlights With, SEMA 2022: Paragon Corvette Adds Performance Parts To, PRI 2022: FuelTech Talks About The Tech Of The FT700, PRI 2022: Concept Performance Now Offers Aluminum LTR, PRI 2022: Get Locked In With Forgeline Beadlock, Creative Automotion: The Art of Farmtruck &, Randy Bolig The Media Mover And Shaker Behind Chevy, How Ken Lingenfelters Love for Corvettes Benefits So, Shop Tour: Brian Tooley Racing Expands To Be A One-Stop, Shop Tour: Prestige Motorsports Is Your One-Stop Hot Rod, Full Factory Tour: How Edelbrock Makes Its Cast Aluminum, HOLY SHIP! The 4 Speed Saginaw has a five step cluster, straight cut reverse gear on the outside of the 1/2 slider with 3 shifter cams in side the side cover. The Muncie is made of aluminum, and will not be rusty looking. Correct!! 0000008635 00000 n
7 bolt side cover 1970, 454 Chevelle SAGINAW TORQUE TUBE TAILSHAFT, G.M., 81-82 CAMARO/FIREBIRD (456) 7 bolt side cover FORD T & C, FORD/MERCURY (434) 10 bolt top cover MUNCIE M-20/M-21, G.M. I am driving on it now and it syncrhonizes up and down all gears great even at high rpms and aggressive downshifting. saginaw 3 & 4-speed. The switch has 2 electric connections where a 2 el.cable should be mounted.Does some of you guys know what the function is of the backup switch and where to connect it? There is quite a difference between them side by side. 0000002777 00000 n
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It is easy to determine whether you have an early or later model Muncie four-speed transmission by the way the transmissions linkage arms are attached. Complete Manual Transmissions. That is RIDICULOUS, Cheryl. Chevy GM Saginaw 3 Speed Transmission Camaro Chevelle Belair C10 Nova J18467. When I fisrt switched from a Muncie to a Saginaw my 1/4 miles times dropped from 14.40's to 13.80's running a basically stock 400,3.23 gears and 28 1/2 in tall slicks. . Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. The saginaw I am running behind my strong 350 I paid $150 for a few months ago, and the guy drove an hour to deliver it, which I tipped him an extra 20 bucks for. A 2 ring input is a V-6 model and has heavier gears than the Vega unit then the best is the unit with a 3 ring input. Thediscussion about whether to use a four-speed or an automatic transmission has been going on for as long as anyone can remember, and we see no end in sight. 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