Hey Rogey, Just use it very sparingly, as cordovan doesnt really need it much. Hi Simon, somewhat related to Pauls question as well as your more recent post on wearing loafers with jeans, Ive recently become interested in trying black tassel loafers with jeans (dark, selvedge denim). Is this a valid concern, is there anything I can say to reassure them? But the point is not just putting fat/oil on. Another wonderful post and excellent examples of how to style cordovan shoes. Dear Simon, Thank you! In general have a read of the review of their boots here. In order to give you the best experience, we use cookies and similar technologies for performance, analytics, personalization, advertising, and to help our site function. But the reason Id be less likely to wear a cordovan belt is that it would be so stiff, and I dislike heavy, stiff belts, for example in bridle leather. I dont like the wider lasts with formal clothing. But perhaps because I carry on using cream now and again. ARGYLE SOCKS 28$ Rubbing it vigorously has a similar effect, and produces more of a shine. On dark-brown shoes with suits, I love that combination. Hi Simon, . The end result of these combined classic techniques is a solid, reliable structure that offers superior strength and longevity. Thank you! You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. Acme Shoemaker Color 4 Shell Cordovan Split Toe Apron Toe Derby Shoe May 18, 2021 DEShellvidge shares his Acme Shoemaker color 4 shell cordovan split toe apron toe derby shoe which he cares for with Pure Polish Cleaner Conditioner and Brown Paste Wax Polish. All edges have been waxed and polished. Both. Ive used Alden, but Id also recommend Yorkshire Sole I saw a friends repair their on Aldens and it was very good. Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. This top-tier collection draws inspiration from bespoke, hand-welted dress shoes with more than a few nods of respect to time-honored traditional processes. More unusual shades among the regulars from left to right (excluding the last Chromexcel specimen): Dark Cognac. There are some comments above about those, as well as about the jeans. Below you'll find the men's specific size chart: Goodyear Welted shoes & sneakers are made & fit quite differently. Priceless. Im not. Theres nothing wrong with the shoe, but it can be a bit of a shock if youre not expecting it. I havent tried it David, no. Quite possibly an accidental darker shade of Cognac Cordovan. I havent found any to be perfect to be honest, but these from Skolyx are probably the best, particularly if you cut them down (they are quite big) if needed. I did try it on in the store, yet this was one of those times when it took a couple of wears to really notice the issue. No worries at all all comments are always welcome, on any vaguely related post. Original Price 30.94 I find this to be true. Natural. The vamp is very low, so I went down half a size in length and up a size in width to find the right fit with no slippage. Anyways, the Alden Indy color 8 shell is often said to be super versatile. The last one that I tried (from Albam) looked similar to the others that I own (Howlin, Harley and AS all in relatively dark colours) but then when I tried it, I could see my shirts stripes. Thanks. Thanks John, great to have the recommendation. I have two pairs of Cordovans from Vass. Apologies if I might be slightly off-topic, but I couldnt find anywhere more relevant to ask you this question. Shoesofstefan at Instagram. , I think you might find cordovan more satisfying Brian, and easier to wear with jeans and slacks too, Thank you Simon. Hi Simon, quick question, are your full strap loafers on the Aberdeen the same size as your jumper boots on the Barrie last? Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. Other asked about Shell Cordovan colors. That is a great loafer and a versatile colour. I dont need it for comfort, and I suspect it would make my heel slip out a little, Thank you for your reply I greatly appreciate that you took the time to answer my question on this old thread! Thank you kindly. What about a suit lower down the formality scale, say a mid Grey flannel? It depends on the last, the model, and any custom features. Simon, would appreciate your thoughts on the Drakes by Alden cordovan chukka boots? I wonder if you could give a perhaps cooler perspective. Absolutely agree Color 8 is very versatile and you can never truly find a calf to match that color (though I have tried). Any particular misgivings about Carmina? Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. The 9.5 feels very comfy from the start. That it fits in almost everywhere. They have burgundy, dark brown and black Lovely though the Aldens look, the associated hassle and inflated costs of getting them over the pond are significant deterrents for now. Is the squeaking noise will decrease in few weeks ? And they can both be brushed out. Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. Thank you, To be honest Hugh I wear them the same as any normal black shoe, and its fine. I have had a pair of Alden loafers in colour 8 (which you rarely ever see in the wild where I live but feel hopelessly unoriginal after reading this article and the comments) for years and all I needed to do as you say is the occasional brush or rub down with a piece of cloth and keep them on shoe trees. ), sole materials and thicknesses, welts, and so on. I think the biggest thing that put me off most was just that normal, calf leather seemed more exciting.   France   |   English (US)   |   (EUR), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy, remember your login, general, and regional preferences, personalize content, search, recommendations, and offers. Theyre really nice. Are the Alden versions sufficiently versatile to wear with flannel, cords, and cavalry twill, maybe with an appropriate sports coat? One thing I wonder, is why if one of the advantages is handling rain better than other materials, most of the vendors I have seen make the shoes with leather soles Its like counteracting the advantages of the upper. They may be below the price of the shoes you often wear (e.g. Black would be best for the suits, and would work with some more casual outfits, but probably not all. Great! Im unsure if I should size up have a size or go with a 7.5. Cordovan always seemed a little dull by comparison. Horween Shell Cordovan Dark Cognac Full Stitch Leather Watch Strap. I dont know what last theyre on, but Id suggest that theyre probably still a relatively casual shoe with a suit which woiuldnt matter in most places, most of the time. They have the typical waves instead of creases mostly, but also some creases in which the texture of the leather has visibly changed, looking dull and a little pulverized on the surface. Thank you. It can be worn with a suit, odd trousers, and jeans. Very Limited availbility. To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. Great look. Have you seen this article on shoes with brown trousers? I had one pair of Alden loafers in #8 years ago when I lived in the States. very interesting article, as always. The cultural association of shoes is fascinating to me. It is an extremely durable, naturally water-resistant leatherwith a glossy, mirror-like finish. If any material could, certainly C8 cordovan could. Id find it far too scratchy against the skin with anything less underneath anyway. It is chunkier. I bought some cordovan (Horween) derby from Churchs some time ago thinking that they were going to get that kind of patina that Aldens colour 8 gets and, unfortunately, it never happened. I think that shows how Alden from a make point of view is really mid-range or lower the expectations get rather inflated outside the US by the prices, and particularly the extra price of cordovan. Hi Simon, Im in an Alden group on FB with them and their customer service seems great though Ive yet to buy from them. also since the colour is quite close to cordovan 8, can the shoe be used in situations where cordovan would have been used? Their lasts are generally pretty wide and accommodating. Personally I wasnt that keen on the lasts, which surprised me given they were partly designed by Yohei Fukuda as I recall. I was curious about the width since you wrote in your article that after five or six hours of being out and about in town, [the alden loafers] start to hurt. Here is a partial list of current shell cordovan colors that Horween offers: Color #8; Black; Dark Cognac; Garnet And its a shade I prefer - you can see the difference in my Vass pair above. (10% off), Sale Price USD 116.00 Original Price 93.97 Have a look at the way this Brycelands shirt fits for example. Ive purchased half a dozen pairs over the last year. Shinki has been in business since 1951 and are one of the few remaining tanneries producing this special article. Our Opinion: Shell cordovan is our favorite leather out there, no question. I myself have never seen a Barrie lasted loafer from them. Original Price 126.06 I dont have an email for them handy, but the owner has an insane shell collection and the store sells Alden including special makeups. If you do, I wouldnt compromise now and regret it in a year when you could then afford a second pair. Reserve not met. Not really to be honest Mike. George Wang (https://dieworkwear.com/2018/09/06/the-sophisticated-black-tassel/) that black loafers work better with jeans than brown ones? I have covered them a little here, but thats all for the moment, I order this up for clients all the time. Sneaker fit is quite forgiving, whereas in a Goodyear Welted pair of shoes you'd like to have a close and adjusted feel in order to have the best and most comfortable fit. My first pair were purchased from Brookes Brothers in Chicago. USD 112.00, USD 140.00 It sounds like they maybe havent had shoe trees in them all the time as well? Cordovan is, generally, easier to look after than calf. I especially enjoy it punched and brogued. It is an extremely durable, naturally water-resistant leather with a glossy, mirror-like finish. Sole. Like suede. Hi Simon, do you think Aldens moc toe in Barrie last would be too casual and wide for mid-grey flannel trousers with 18.5cm leg openings? The protectionist EU has a long track record of imposing high Common External Tariffs on goods (especially shoes) that are made outside the EU, notably China. When wearing premium leather from the world-famous Horween leather company in Chicago, USA, you go on a journey. Original Price USD 190.00 What materials and colours work with suede that dont work with cordovan? When you said you wear 8.5E on EG all lasts, I presume you refer to just loafers such as 184 last or including oxford and derby lasts say 202 or 606 last? Perhaps a very small amount, but any actual fit issues havent changed. As its sister HOK last, the ROD is a voluminous last, featuring a wide ball tread, providing superior comfort to the wearer. You can change your preferences any time in your Privacy Settings. Good to see that you mention Vass. Thank you & Happy Thanksgiving! As Nick Horween told us. Hmm. Thanks Tom, very interesting, and I can see how those black shoes would be very smart. *Please note. Support Heddels. many thanks and keep up the excellent work with the blog. do you think the full strap in calf is easier to wear in and adapts faster? Dark Green Shell Cordovan Rally Strap $175.00 AUD. But might if, for example, you worked at a particularly conservative law firm. The vamp on the EG is higher than the other two not a lot, but enough to affect the style. Simon, it is a great post. PRODUCT SPECS * Article: Classic Shell Cordovan * Tannery: Rocado (Italy) * Tannage: Vegetable Tanned * Full Grain: Yes * Finish: Full Aniline *. Just got a pair though I am yet to try it on. Most of our ready to wear production goes from size 6UK to 12UK, but if you happen to wear a smaller or larger size, we can definitely help & specially make any pair from our collection for you. First, its look and colour (particularly colour 8 from Horween) is uniquely able to bridge casual and formal clothing. I know readers appreciate them too. NW1) and knitwear though. Welcome to Worth the Price, a recurring series exploring some of menswear's most covetable and expensive products.This week: shell cordovan shoes. Although not a number 8, I really like those cordovan Vass. Both made bespoke for me 21 years ago. Longwing by Enzo Bonaf. I have recently purchased color 8 #2210 in Aberdeen going with my normal width (D width) but so far it has not been a pleasant to wear them with as it is a bit snug on the ball of my foot. Colour Horween Dark Cognac Shell Cordovan Add to Cart $741.00 Description Horween Shell Cordovan upper Derby construction with French binding Traditional oak bark counter & stiffener Footbed cork filled by hand Sustainable Lactae Hevea sole Clicker's Notes - Material Made To Order - Delivery Times Tax Free Shopping - Non European Orders Shoe Care If I remember correctly, you wear US 9E in EG 184 last. In one way, yes it is. Simon Just re-read this, I do have to get myself a pair of these! J&M no longer makes anything worthwhile . Hi,Simon Pairing black with brown strikes me as the perhaps the ultimate example of knowing the rules and knowing how to break them, and if done wrong could look positively awful. These intricate, centuries-old construction details further close the gap between high-end casual sneakers and traditional, Goodyear Welted Northampton dress shoes. I live in topsiders during the summer months and these also seem to have strong ties to the Northeastern United States. Its manageable depending on what socks I have on but thin or sockless is out of the question. Wanted to see what I should expect with more wearings. Horween Shell Cordovan Indiana Men's Dress & Formal Shoes All Auction Buy It Now 125 Results US Shoe Size Shoe Width Color Brand Theme Condition Price Buying Format All Filters NEW $670 Meermin Horween Dark Cognac Shell Cordovan Field Boot Size 11 HOK Last $399.00 $36.15 shipping or Best Offer 11 watching In my experience they do stretch. Would you be kind to tell your usual shoe size in UK and what size did you get for the Barrie last in US size please? Have you been happy with your boots in general? Not trying to be a snob! These Alden on the Aberdeen last are size 9 US, so roughly 8 UK, D width. Is this ill advised for a first loafer? Sometimes, the people that do so like many farmers Ive met have more respect for the animals than anyone else. Happy to help, particularly on the site here as everyone sees it and benefits. Bought one years ago and if I apply it like in the Jesper article the only thing I get is get scratches. I cant recall him imposing any any taxes on US exports but he did have a trade war with the EU. Would they go to the informality of jeans or would they be too smart? As a long time fan of both Alden and Cordovan, Im glad to see youre a convert. USD 135.00, USD 150.00 One of the biggest such sites in the world, it receives up to 500,000 page views a month. Personally not the biggest fan of cordovan, though for a different reason (total ok with roll vs crease). Thank you and much appreciate it! 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