First, is your 500 cranking over at all (the engine spins when you turn the key? My wife or son cranked it once a month until the coolant light changed at 140F and never had a problem. Battery seemed to measure fine before charging. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. the car will not start unless i push-start it. Fiat Cares does not put any mechanics on the phone, of course, because they would not make money that way. Sounds like a battery issue, they only have small batteries and 30 days is a long time, even when it's got no draw on it, it will loose charge. And yes it is a dual clutch, not a 'real' stick. Batteries have an internal resistance plus connection resistances. Join our community to talk about all things Fiat 500 related. FIAT only has 46K miles on it. My problem seems to have some of the elements of all of these "won't start" issues. My Fiat simply will not start, I have already changed the starter motor and it does the same thing. There are a lot of issues that can cause your 500 not to start. if the car has been sitting for more than a month, you will have to just crank it and crank it repeatedly to build up oil pressure for the multiair system. Michelin Pilot Sport 3 Plus tires, STS rear sway bar, Euro+Drive NA 500 Tune, BMC reusable air filter and Spare Tyre with cover. My problem seems to have some of the elements of all of these "won't start" issues. Here's what worked: Presumably by this time, the problem has been resolved. You must log in or register to reply here. Glad to hear they identified the problem, sounds like indeed it's the same as mine - I wonder if we'll see a spate of this problem on just-over-one-year-old US Fiats. Staffed M-F 7:30am-5:30pm EST by the Stellantis Social Engagement Team. Oil usage is all in how you drive it. Just pouring oil in won't put any oil directly into the brick. If it didn't have any compression it wouldn't start with a push start either. I replaced the battery, and checked all the fuses. I haven't tried to start it again today. yes it sounded like only the starter was spinning weird kind of noise as like you said no compression. Its in my driveway and trying just to get it started to get it to dealership. I finally found out why my 2012 fiat 500 sport with 48000 miles on it wouldn't start sometimes and sometimes it would fiat dealer didn't have a clue. Start by taking a look at the battery posts. If they are loose or corroded, it acts as a barrier that can keep the starter from getting the voltage it needs to crank the engine. But I managed to drive it all the way home no problem. Can't start. or sometimes after 20 or so tentatives. Your dealer, is it Alfa/Fiat of Providence, RI, by any chance? Sounds like a bad relay. 10k km in and no issues since. Here you can discuss Abarth, turbo & tuning, service, specs, maintenance plus more! That is RIDICULOUS, Cheryl. It may not display this or other websites correctly. You can take your battery to the local parts store or even Walmart and have it tested to see if it still holds a charge. Here you can discuss Abarth, turbo & tuning, service, specs, maintenance plus more! Staffed M-F 7:30am-5:30pm EST by the Stellantis Social Engagement Team. You're trying to build up oil pressure to the cylinder head. This is something the dealer will tell you never happens. happened twice. My Fiat 500 won't start, and it keeps making noises like it's trying to turn on but it won't start. Do you remember the repair cost of the engine work? Starters might not be your issue. What does that mean? Stereo keeps playing after my car is turned off. Show More. The dealer told me that they have had a number of reports of the same thing and the new cars in their lot they regularly have to take a booster battery to start them. The owners manual states to start the car every few weeks to prevent this. It Explains your issue in your 500s owners manual. BATTERY IS GOOD SINCE RADIO AND LIGHTS COME ON WHEN I TURN THE KEY. There is a port on the brick that you can get to from the oil cap hole to press down to get more oil in that way also. You must log in or register to reply here. I already have winter tires for my Giulia. (sitting at the airport for than a month at at time) imagine that!!! When there is no spark, the engine will not start. There are occasions where this security system will cause the 500 not to start, such as the key fob not working. JavaScript is disabled. 687 views, 16 likes, 0 loves, 4 comments, 4 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Khanta: Mel K - Andrew Sorchini - Preparing for the Global Pivot Away from. Had to be towed to the dealership. Same response. ever notice how the relays kick on when you open the door? Your cars engine needs air, fuel, and a spark to run. The intake valves are actuated by oil pressure in the multi-actuator in that head.. I will try locking it and see what happens. My engine oil was topped off. Any help is greatly appreciated as I have all the interior panels off the car inside. Immediately restarted it again and all was good. That plug is certainly NOT fouled. They got me for 250$ because my spark plugs were "fouled" allegedly at 30 k miles and wouldn't proceed with fixing my car that didnt fire like this without changing the plugs first and I was out of the country. 2. Messages. Only crank the starter 15 seconds at a time. Great car, fun for my wife to drive. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. There are many things that can cause this - the clutch/starter interlock, dead or intermittent battery, bad battery connection, etc., etc., etc. Bulletins exist for crank/no start and no crank/no start. Look in the manual. I am also going to check for a seized alternator that I was reading somewhere in this forum. Oil from the valve train drain down to the oil pan. She's a 2012 model, only got 30km on it, pretty sure the battery is fine. The car has a new Battery, Alternator, Starter. I told them what the ussue was on day one. Hope you get to the bottom of it! I read through some of them trying to find an answer or fix since mine wouldn't start as well. You don't want to keep cranking as the starter can overheat/burn up. My L had a bad battery from the factory. The car lost its oil prime. All I can attest to is that it wouldn't start no matter how many time I tried until I put oil in through the top. I cranked it for an extended time and TaDa it fired up and ran fine. Use an OBDII scanner to check and see if the engine has thrown any trouble codes. The only thing odd about the start was that much more smoke came out of the exhaust than I'm used to seeing, and it stank. any help? You lose more the harder its pushed through the AOS, not due to bad rings or burning oil. I'm guessing the no start issue is due to a faulty clutch pedal switch. I'd start with the basics. 3. Ran ragged for about 30 seconds and straightened out. I have had not had this issue, keep us informed and let us know how it goes. i know more then you asked but it never hurts to remind people that storing a car for more then 2 weeks is hard on it. Here are the common issues that can cause your 500 to crank but not start. 2020 Abarth, Manual Transmission, Bose/Navigation, Veleno, Convenience, Record Monza. We bought one that works. You are using an out of date browser. SEE, I think it's a 15 pin plug and two wires change on the plug fro 95 to. Not unusual at the 100k mark if you tend to make lots of trips every week (i.e. Thanks for your help guys! You must log in or register to reply here. I know this is common issue with the Multi-Air 1.4s. Only replace drained batteries with new batteries in the same voltage, size, and specification. Would hurt to press the brake try to shift to neutral. But you could hear the fuel pump come up. Show Less. Look at the tips of the plug, not the threads. I was always tempted to use the passenger doors for general in + outery. Thats why it is so important to check everything. http://batteryuniversity.com/index.php/learn/article/types_of_lithium_ion, Stereo keeps playing after my car is turned off. It is highly likely that if the engine is cranking but not starting that it has thrown an OBDII code. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. NO SOUND ANYWHERE AT ALL. You are using an out of date browser. You want to do it in intervals. I have cranked it over about 100 times and just free spinning. Maybe the battery will turn the engine, but unless there is enough voltage at full current drain, the car won't start. The FIAT Abarth has been sitting in my garage without being started for almost 3 months. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. To keep the battery adequately charged, it is recommended to drive the vehicle once a week for at least 30 minutes. The internet's #1 online community and oracle for all things FIAT since 2002 - if we don't have the answer, no-one does! It has a picture guide for all the fuses and relays. Ask questions in the forums, fix common issues using our helpful guides, upload your photos to the gallery or buy and sell with the online classifieds. Versatile Solutions Inc., Suite no 10301, 94 Solaris Avenue, Camana Bay, Cayman Islands. Now trying to find out if I will recover from my broken back so I can drive it again? I do not get a clicking sound, so I am wondering if I suddenly have a bad solenoid. All - Answered by a verified Auto Mechanic. Ask questions in the forums, fix common issues using our helpful guides, upload your photos to the gallery or buy and sell with the online classifieds. When the starter isnt functioning, it is impossible to start your car. According to some googling, apparently this is a common issue - something about a starter solenoid? and forgot to mention my car had been sitting for over a month without starting it up ,also all the warning lights were flashing like crazy. I guess someone is pointing at a lack of oil to operate the valves? It took me 16 times but it started after 6 weeks. . If you are sure it's charging OK then that points to a dodgy battery not holding it's charge while standing or something that is drawing current while the vehicle is stood. I looked down and even though the shift was in "park" the letter "D" was lit up on the shift display. s. Cleaned them up, reinstalled everything, drained and refilled the oil. The next thing to look at when your 500 isnt starting would be the starter itself. Had a fiat in for that issue and I had to hard wire the starter to battery ground. Submitted: 7 days ago. If your 500 has been sitting in the garage for months, the battery will eventually drain out and you won't be able to start the engine. We cover all the likely ones in an order that makes sense when diagnosing the issue at home. When a starter goes bad, they will usually not give you much warning at first. There's a little more than a 1/4 tank of fuel in it. As long as the business end is dry (not gas soaked) they look ok. (Yes, looks like a bit of oil where the plug socket goes - you can clean that up for now). JavaScript is disabled. Has been sitting in a pretty hot garage for. . The OBDII codes stored in the computer can really help diagnose the issue. If you had walked up, put 200ml in that hole, it would have started first crank. Yes, having a little extra oil on top from the pour in may have helped with it sucking through that same check valve you have to fill it with. And then I couldn't get it started again. If your Fiat 500 doesnt start, youve found the right article. Turn the ignition to the first position. No Crank No Start Diagnosis. Sorry yes - I was just mentioning the most obvious ones to check as they can be left on as in 'user error' - anything else would be classed as a fault really and should be sorted by the dealer because if none of those others are switching off it would require a warranty repair to sort it. Sport mode being on with default startup of the car. Make sure you have strong battery. Where are you located BTW? I know there have been some posts made about no-start problems after Spiders have sat for a period of time. Fiat "500" Stainless door sills by Mopar. Depending on the season (we are in northwest Ohio) one of them becomes my daily driver, the other sits. All fuses have been checked. I do hear a strange buzzing sound in the engine somewhere when the key is in the on position, its bit near the fuse box or ECM. Your 500 needs 12+ volts to start its engine. We are having the same problem and we have a newer battery. A bad alternator can cause your battery to drain to the point it cant turn your 500 over. . If you know it ran when parked, and it sounds like no compression, then that's definitely a drain down. 2017 Fiat 124 Spider Elaborazione Abarth A/T. Same here, Fiat 500, 15 months old, 8600 miles. Wolf, I pulled out about a half quart then added the same amount of fresh oil through the fill cap. Thank you!!!! Yes, first is just letting it turn over a while and circulate, best done with coils unplugged so its not firing. I tried to find a real stick to force my daughter to learn to drive one but it was very difficult to find one near northwest Ohio with the rest of the options I wanted. I'm not planning on winterizing. I imagine the tires won't be happy with low temperatures, but is there a risk of damaging them if driven gently? I would say after 3 years of being left for a month at a time the battery is toast now anyway. VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Glad to hear they are taking care of you and the issue. It took a lot of pumping to get the flow started and the oil moved slowly through the tube. Oct 4, 2017. like a switch or gear shift interlock, etc). To start a conversation, click our username then select the start a conversation button and send us your make, model year, and mileage for us to review. Sport mode being on with default startup of the car. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Sometimes faulty ECM may be the reason for the non-functional fuel pump. A lot of early 500's had bad batteries. The dealer told me that they have had a number of reports of the same thing and the new cars in their lot they regularly have to take a booster battery to start them. 2018 Abarth MT Engine Rebuild #2 in progress, spent an hour with two 10 second cranks back to back - waiting 30 seconds and the repeating - At least 20 times. DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED ? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The codes will likely be related to the potential issues listed below. It can take surprisingly long to start up. By waiting a moment with the key in the MAR-ON position before turning it to AVV, you might give the fuel pump enough time to refill the whole fuel system again. It is due to the Multi-Air brick needing oil to function and it drains over a long storage. Do not over heat the starter. Category: Car. Mine did. Immediately restarted it again and all was good. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Warm oil would certainly flow better. When these sensors go bad, it can be impossible for your 500 to start. If the spark plugs are firing at the wrong time, or something has happened to cause the camshaft to no longer be in sync with the crankshaft, your 500 wont start. How old is your car? As your cars battery ages, its cranking amperage decreases, leaving it with a diminished capacity for starting the engine. MY 2012 FIAT 500 WONT START. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. If your 500 won't start, be happy if you see the check engine light. If the button cell battery in the key fob of 500 is replaced incorrectly or a battery is unsuitable, it can damage the vehicle key. Fuel Issues If your 500 isn't getting enough fuel, or any fuel at all, it may have a bad fuel filter, bad fuel pump, or bad fuel injectors. Would just adding that small amount of oil without draining any result in an overfill? I simply charged the battery (left it on an intelligent charger overnight) and it fired up the next day. Yesterday, I tried to start it and it turns over really fast like it has no compression. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Progress Springs, EC V4 intake and Intercooler, DV+ diverter valve, TR Motorsports FF10 wheels, Pirelli Pzero+ 215/45/17, GWR full Abarth Exhaust, Wilwood BBK, Redline Goods shifter and E-brake boot. Nearest FIAT dealer is backed up til December. OK, you turn the key and it continues to crank. I've read pretty much all the threads on this and it's actually happened to me last season and I was able to fix it by simply doing an oil change which was necessary anyway. I used the push in release on the right of the column to move the gear shift out of park to neutral and tried to start. If you do take it to the dealer, change the spark plugs before you go. My Fiat wont start after sitting for a couple of months. It is a flaw of the MA brick absolutely, it is not the norm for any engine with an intake cam. thanks foir your thoughts.that is my next attempt.turning the key on and off before attempting to start it..get the fuel up to the engine first. i use a power cut-off switch to keep a charged battery, but after more than 30 days away, the car will not start unless i push-start it..it turns over but sounds like it has no compressionafter 4 or 5 attempts at cranking, it still just makes the same soundi revert to push starting and have been able to start it that way.Detroit customer service has no answers for me and my dealership told me i should buy a different car..they said this car wasn't designed for my driving needs. No bet that it's the same issue, but you might suggest it to your dealer: Okay I heard from them. after a few crankings, the car will start. But I didn't think I had let the clutch out too fast. It may take longer than 3 or 4. 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