And whatever I was playing in didnt even feel like a band. But Saturday night in Boulder, Colorado, he was right back where he should be - backing up Mike Campbell and playing Tom Petty songs. It was still like.this is incredible, I don't want to die here, this is great! You stumble upon George Harrison, Jeff Lynne, and Petty in Pettys office, jamming. Hi! And what it basically translated to was, "Fuckin' have some fun with this, wouldya?". You just have to be man enough to hear it, rather than keep trying to change it. The other guys might have had a little more expectation, so there was more disappointment for them. The interview was conducted by Jeff Sims, guitarist of the Dixie Desperados and lifelong friend of Lynch's. Lynch and Sims attended Westwood Middle School in the 1960s and would play music. having this conversation," he said in a 2003 interview with Newsweek. As were driving, hes making me haul ass, and he says, Stanley, driving a Ferrari fast, thats what a groove feels like. At the gig, Marley had the place hypnotized. I have the slang and the cadence and the understanding of how those songs are supposed to be translated. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. April 25, 2022 Andrew Gulden 1. And I said "Hey man, it must be fun working with so-and-so", and he goes, "Yeah, thank God I sold a shitload of records 'cause now I can hang around and make records till the money runs out!" There was a lot of miscommunication and many immature sh*ts going down. Within twenty-four hours, I was talking to Don and he said, Man, what are you doing? So it's like, my life feels more cartoonish to me than dour and dark. Lynchs run ends after a June 26 show in Aspen, Colorado. He said, I want it to be yours. I dont know what it would mean to them since they have a lot more miles than I do, but it would be a joy for me., Campbell says hes not ready for something like that. She was having a moment. It comes up in weird ways. That's that old story, by the time you figure that out, they're on to something else anyway. Basically, youre witnessing the birth of the Traveling Wilburys. Then Covid Trapped Them There. Rolling Stone is a part of Penske Media Corporation. He didnt want it to be authorized because he felt like authorized meant bull-, says Warren Zanes, whose Petty: The Biography arrives next month. Lets get right to this. But hes never really opened up about his split with Petty and the band. He could have handled things better, and his mistakes were mainly related to miscommunication and immaturity. He basically has no connection to that family back in Florida. But Petty was always just the right fit, for me, my brother, my sister and my mother. And in five minutes or so, Tom Petty comes out. Stan did everything he could to get fired, Petty said. There are things I could have handled better, specifically with Mike. There sat the fantastic coffee. And George Harrison looks at me and says, Its Brian Jones, back from the dead. Of course, George knows enough what a man who wants an autograph looks like. I watched really depressing people get more depressed. He is from OH. Cohasset, Mass. Here are a couple of albums Stan has worked on that are worth checking out: Barry Sides "Broken Hearts Broken Strings", Dixie Desperados , Drew Copeland and Gregg McMillan's first solo album. Oh yeah, that one never changed. Original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch recently joined an interview with Rolling Stone. They tried to help him. What would I start doing, polling people in high school? It was almost like in Men In Black. Over and over and over and over and over. That is what I thought rock'n'roll was. But they're in it for a different ride. I love that record as much and in some cases more than any of the classic Heartbreakers albums. srlynch@stanford.edu. His net worth has been growing significantly in 2021-2022. How deep into your hole of shit do you need to go? And Im a guy that always wanted to be in a band. Be it ever so humble, my past with Tom and the band, I never take it for granted. Yes. Stan Lynch by Patrick Berkery When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, "Stan. Even in the second grade, it was like, the nice way of putting it on the report card: "He seems to be a leader!" I didnt want to find out anything that would compromise the mans dignity, Zanes said. For now, though, this feature on one of rocks most tasteful timekeepersa true player of the songwill do, for theres plenty to discuss with Lynch. It's like, Mick needs Keith. And he's also one of the biggest displays of the pitfalls from beyond success: drug addiction, overindulgence, friends that aren't friendsthe peripheral players that just kill you, they bleed you. Drummer Talk 272 State of the Union (So What IS Up? Hep Alien and Yannick like this. At 45, Stan Lynch appears to be comfortably making the transition from archetypal wild rock drummer to trusted elder statesman - all the while retaining the same enthusiasm that made him stand out as a drummer, showing a keen interest in helping young artists through the struggles of building a career. And certainly in Pettys life, it was a big deal when he and George Harrison came together. I was wearing this brocade jacket and had long, bushy blonde hair. Among his more pointed criticisms concern the song "Stop Draggin' My Heart. The Heartbreakers are hardly a case study in intolerance. Stan Lynch page 1.jpg. When Tom Petty was asked to describe original Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch in the 2005 book Conversations With Tom Petty, the bandleader responded with, Stan. By signing up, you agree to our User Agreement and Privacy Policy & Cookie Statement. Plus: each Wednesday, exclusively for subscribers, the best books of the week. Combine that with a finely honed sense of dynamics, a big signature tone featuring huge toms and in-your-face snare, and an uncanny attentiveness to every moment of a performance, and you may as well have custom designed the ideal rock drummer. USA. If I look up and see Mike Campbells butt in front of my drum kit, its kind of like Im home., Opening night in Boulder was heavy on material from the two Dirty Knobs albums, but they also dipped into the Heartbreakers catalog with songs like Refugee, Runnin Down a Dream, Southern Accents, and You Wreck Me. As the days went by, they started sprinkling in additional oldies like Listen to Her Heart, When the Time Comes, and Casa Dega., Im still learning to be a singer, says Campbell. [laughter] You know, mining the same belly button lint for the 10,000th time. Joined Jun 3, 2013 Messages 1,601 Reaction score When I heard what happened, it put me right down on my knees, literally. Its become a very special moment and the crowd picked up on the love between us.. You just say well, you coulda done, or you shoulda done, or would youand what you're really saying is "Why didn't you do it my way?" 2023 Rolling Stone, LLC. Lynch reflecting on his time in Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers: There were many things that were not said that should have been said. We got together and played at that and talked and were friendly, Petty said in 2007. Now, everybody has a CD. Lynch contributed to the bands first eight albums, and he served as the bands original drummer for two decades until he decided to leave in 1994. Stan: Absolutely. It was an exhilarating ride, but there were frequent creative and personal tensions between Petty and the outspoken drummer that eventually led to Lynch's departure from the band after 19 years. He ended up recording harmonies on the bands Warner Brothers dbut album, and he brought the Del Fuegos with him on tour. We grew up loving Tom Petty more than his contemporaries. I didnt know whether to say, Thank you or Fuck you. I only knew I was grateful to have had the experience of having all those men in my life. Hell, it certainly hurts when you spend a year and the record isn't noticed. Later on, Stan Lynch worked with many other prominent names like the Eagles, Eddie Money, Toto, and Ringo Starr. It doesn't mean that they suck; it means that that particular season they were reading the pitches all wrong! I've always been that guy, you know like the Roadrunner cartoon, like "What if I go ahead and blow this up, what'll happen?" If I ran a record label, probably one of the first things I'd do is drop half the roster. Stan Lynch Since 1977, the world's most widely read drum magazine: in print, online, and the Modern Drummer app. She said, how does a 50-year-old become a junky? I remember when the other guys I was working with would say, "We're only making 300 a week!" If you know right from wrong, you speak up. He couldnt go from music into politics, and Bruce Springsteen could. That was probably cut more around the time of Greatest Hits in 1993, but it fits in. You learn them. We both started smiling at one point and went, We got something here. Collaboration is a whole other thing, you have to let the collaboration happen, and that's a wonderful lesson to learn. Thus, the rocker said he has tons of regrets regarding his time with the band. Very few go forever, you know. Oh, my my, oh, hell yes, did Lynch serve those songs well. Receive updates & special offers from Modern Drummer and our advertising partners. Born. And then I was working with Rick Rubin on a session I think it. But, in his own way, he said, I just dont want to go back there. If its just one or two of us, thats one thing. From Bruce Springsteen to Graham Parker to Elvis Costello. 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Personally I prefer Stan's style, but Ferrone is excellent in his own right, and I agree Wildflowers was a big peak for Petty. And that's why I smile, usually, 'cause I realize I was given the.the troll said you can pass! I take care of my life, I can cook, I can do other things, but music is everything that it always was - it's still the biggest goddamn thing in my life. When he gets married, its the same thing. You keep this band together. There are a lot of producers and labels that actually do that.I'm sure they do! I'm Bihter. So that one, just take it on, don't sidestep that one. The funny thing is, I really wanted to fit in so desperately, even up to the bitter end. A couple things. I mean, there were days when I was bitter about it, I thought, "Oh, man, I should be Keith Moon!" I had a kit in my house, and I had to take it away. I'm not sayingI'm certainly not bulletproof. At one point, he said, Warren, Im going to have to answer questions about this for the rest of my life. And I said, I know.. But you know, no matter how much shit I give any of those guys or they can give me, there were some great lessons learned in how to grow up with people. They were the best and brightest at the game for a minute there, and I was in very rarified air and extremely good company for a moment there. So I think nowadays it's so much by rote, your first album can sell a million records, and it's no big deal - they'll still drop you [laughs]. If you're in it to make as much money as possible, that's a question you would really have to consider. Theres also the matter of last years Peter Bogdanovichdirected Tom Petty And The Heartbreakers documentary Runnin Down A Dream. But for many drummers, his playing defines the late rocker's greatest work. They got me a Beatles magazine from 1965, the year I was born. Copyright 2023 Modern Drummer Publications. [laughs] And it's really nice when you hear somebody in the room, even if you're not sure whether they're better than you or worse than you, but it's something you wouldn't do! And then we got together when we were old fucks and we played some clubs. I would have never bet on that.. . But if you changed you'd be compromising what you've been all about. I didnt even speak to him at the Hall of Fame, says Lynch. It's like, for me, "Thank God Tom sold a lot of records 'cause now I can enjoy making music!". I couldn't get over it, I always was much more lighthearted about it - even in the darkest days of my drug frenzy, which lasted a full month [laughter]. He had had encounters with people who did heroin, and he hit a point in his life when he did not know what to do with the pain he was feeling. . I'm interested in rock music, literature, cinema, and doing research in Cultural Studies. I've heard talk about taking the best of the 1997 Fillmore. The presence of a Beatle is a thick presence. Stan Lynch page 2.jpg. The band loudly declared their love for Petty at their shows. I pretty much showed up at his door the next day, and he said, Welcome to the next chapter.. Rock drummers seem to be almost expected to be troublemakers, and early on you had that reputation. By virtue of his band staying together and the quality of the musicians, the Heartbreakers are a singular story in popular music. I think he was invested in being caught in that cycle in part because there was so much movement in it all that the trouble from his past was kept at bay. But I don't buy that whole thingI think most musicians really want attention and they want to be heard, and it's great! And it hasn't taken me very seriously. But I really had to let go of it or else I would walk around constantly trying to tell people who I used to be. Video unavailable It was their first face-to-face encounter in 20 years, and they had a chat before playing much music together. Moral dilemmas, relationships, parenting and more. I interviewed Stan for Vintage Drums Magazine (a now defunct British publication) in 2018 and we got deep into his gear for Damn The Torpedoes. Drummer, producer and songwriter Stan Lynch's career reads like a rock'n'roll fairy tale: from 1975 to 1994, as a founding member of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Lynch toured around the world, enjoyed a string of hit records, and gained high acclaim as a drummer's drummer among his peers. I felt like, perhaps, Id made all the noise I could. MD: What was your state of mind when you finally got the call that you were fired from the band? It's not a weenie thing to do at all. The coolest thing about this is that I get to put a bookend on a really, really long book of life, he says. But most musicians have no hobbies. And I'd probably fire 90% of the A&R staff for hiring them. The musician revealed that he wishes he had handled the situation in the band in a more proper way regarding his departure. 2023 Rolling Stone, LLC. Is there an example of Stan Lynch being behind the beat on a Tom Petty song? Out came Petty, walking his walk, carrying the manuscript. So I think that if you're flat, if you've hit a point where you just don't know where the hell to turn, that's usually somebody's way of saying, "Man, you need a bro.". Yeah, you tank. He now resides in St. Augustine, Florida, not far from his and his former bandmates' home town of Gainesville. Stan Lynch . That is the fuckin' ride. His feel somehow combines the loose gallop of great classic rock'n'roll with the unrelenting tension of barely contained energy. I just couldnt look at it. It hurts me to see somebody in that much pain, I really internalize it, it bothers me! And I'm going [excitedly], "We're making 300 a week!" Now there's a book in itself." Any book about the fifty-two-year-old Lynch would surely be an entertaining, fairly hilarious read. It wouldn't sound the same if it wasn't Keith Moon playing the drums.Oh absolutely, but at the same time, it's Pete Townshend protecting his idea. And so I have regrets, but they dont hold me back. What do you do in that situation?I think the real question then would be: what are you in it for? The guy's a fucking hardcore, he lives and eats it, he's destined to be who he is! Last week, Stan Lynch was interviewed atthe Matheson Museum in Gainesville, Florida. Stan Lynch - Modern Drummer Magazine Features Stan Lynch It's been thirty years since he recorded with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. And some bands that have been together for 10 minutes, it's 10 minutes too long, and some bands that have been together for 20 years are just right. It wasn't a valid thing, there was no business to back me up on that. I kneeled down, took her hand, and I went, Its going to be OK. I think its a bit of healing and closure for people to revisit that feeling and revisit Tom in a positive way., Playing Pettys music night after night has also given Lynch the opportunity to grieve for his friend. One day, Pettys manager, Tony Dimitriades, called Zanes out of the blue and said that Tom had read Dusty in Memphis and wanted to have dinner the next time Warren was in L.A. For Zanes, who had a new baby at home in Cleveland, It was all I could do not to leave right then. When they did meet, Petty said that the Dusty book had inspired a song, and that he wanted Zanes to come to his house to hear it. I felt like all of the uniforms and emotional and metaphysical stuff about being a drummer, Id sort of outgrown. That time Tom Petty kindly asked Michele Bachmann to stop using his song in her campaign. So, in some ways it's harder for the same reasons it's easier, if that makes any sense. 79.6 KB Views: 141. Thats when it fell apart with Stan., The tensions between Lynch and Petty had been building ever since the late 1980s when Petty recorded with the Traveling Wilburys and followed that up with his first solo album. I could have moved forward without him. I think life is different at that altitude. Now, people know you gotta own your own publishing - we didn't know! I figured, "Well I'm off the road, my job's done, whoopeeee!" The Petty Archives is not in any way knowingly affiliated, associated, or endorsed by the Tom Petty estate, any of the Heartbreakers, and/or any of their current or previous management. It may be time to change channels. When hes telling the story about how his father beat the shit out of him at age five, its hard not to feel something., I cant pretend to know everything that was going through his mind in telling me these things, Zanes added. Lynchs portion of the tour was slated to kick off April 23 in Boulder, Colorado, so he had plenty of time to prepare. If you're actually really good, and they don't get it, you can actually believe that you're wrong and they're right. They were laughing their asses off, says Lynch. I had gotten the phone call signifying one part of my life was over. Someones passing a joint through the balcony and Denny says, Thats what a feel is. He was just being helpful in his very 70s way. Location. ', Related It also fucks with the legacy. He decided whatever I was doing he wasnt digging. Stan Lynch: Drumming in the Music BizInsights on how to stay sane in a crazy business. I wouldnt want to cheapen it or do a watered-down version., Theres been talks of a one-off tribute show where the Heartbreakers would play with guest singers, but Campbell says he cant even envision that. But then, I know guys it didn't hurt. I wish somebody had told me that. I had to forget all that. Call somebody you respect. I've been extremely curious about what's gonna happen if? The New Yorker may earn a portion of sales from products that are purchased through our site as part of our Affiliate Partnerships with retailers. Zanes also had access to the Heartbreakers. He wrote songs, they recorded those songs, they put a record together with artwork, they released it, and they went out on the road to support it. We know him as a vital member of the classic Heartbreakers lineup. Petty was our guy. And yelling and protesting. The 500 Greatest Songs of All Time They werent officially named the Heartbreakers until they came together in Los Angeles in 1976. Paper, rock, scissors!". When original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch was let go from the group in 1995 or "excommunicated," to use his own term he started a new chapter of his life in Florida as. Youll know it when you know it. Sure enough, we went back to the studio and we got two tracks that night. They held on trying to keep that band together. But other people will drag things out of you and it's beautiful if you let it happen. So you never bought into the whole idea that rock'n'roll is just for rebellious kids?No, it wasn't a personal rebellion for meit was a joy and also a way for me to draw attention to myself [laughter], which was what I always wanted to do. I grabbed him and told him what I needed to tell him. Rumble Doll, Jun 12, 2015. And I interpret that in any way I can: that means spiritually, financially, they know the rudiments, they know their scalesthey've done their homework! I would sayyou have a lot of energy, young man! His last words to me where, I heard you, man. If a band leader had any energy left over to encourage others, they could, and it's good to include people. And with that, there can be the ultimate cost. When original Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers drummer Stan Lynch was let go from the group in 1995 or excommunicated, to use his own term he started a new chapter of his life in Florida as a producer-songwriter and rarely looked back. Its because hes trying to succeed at something that his own family failed at, sometimes dramatically. But it's a wonderful thing to know that I'm on a journey now. And that's what it's supposed to do, so she did her job. We're a rock band! So, you have to be prepared to live with that as a self-employed musician, you have to be prepared to suffer that. Photograph by Richard E. Aaron/Redferns/Getty. Earlier this year, Stan Lynch reunited with his former bandmate, Mike Campbell, when Campbell asked him to join him on the road with the Dirty Knobs. The angst actuallywhat draws most people in drives me away. Its a moment in which these guys, no matter how corny it might sound, they were kind of falling in love with each other. It never felt that strange. 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